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Have been single like we've been doing a lot lately on wetland suits because all of them -- a whole lot of information a whole lot of controversy. Concerning appliance. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Atmospheric. Administration loans have problems saying so and so called it in 08 a new. Got an email from old -- and its. Some big -- -- -- open water -- Terrible encourage should move roots and try our old Orleans plaque -- Saint Bernard. And basically what it's as. This is some additional mature oil and analysis. But has been done by various institutions. And agencies. Eight or what role did mean sea level rise by the end of this century. Is when the reasonable bounds of expectations. In this month. No won't be raising about you mean sea level. Or -- the east coastal Louisiana. And we'll tell you what that. -- is that breeze is predicted to be and hopefully talk to. One of the representatives. Of north so if you lived in any of those parachutes are -- pushing towards all the plaque from Saban art. Concerned about flooding that seems to be your report that. The gulf coming up a little bit better -- than they thought aboard at least that -- read it. Welcome back and find out of that true if you questions or concerns. Which I'm sure most of you toppled easier and -- Number called to -- 0187. Toll free 866. 90. Heats up. -- welcome back to asserted the union to show we've been through a lot of shoes on where and so. Who'd been controversy and also new information -- as it is ago. Human. And it was from no and well there's no national Oceanic atmospheric adminstration. And the sub Agilent has opened water wrote. And it talks about terrible and the votes -- natural flow like the blues and ignored. Instead of me just -- -- and try and exploit and said that group to the -- -- we. And ignorant of what those mean and thankfully we have Stephen go with -- chief scientist or no. Or -- -- heard one in the actions leading expert in the United States -- -- -- -- that so much. So what does this mean open water groove you're talking about means that you doubled -- -- means you doubles -- support and so. But I I think to report that you that you're referring -- is not really all through that report that. There's open water as we we chart the nation's. Problems as we don't know what does -- charts. Offer navigation purposes and that's the return pros we update the shoreline. In update features some charts and and we do know that. We had we had six several names so the individual lakes and rivers off the map in the -- because. Those features no longer exist when you when you look at me. And he you know charter or map of land of the shorelines -- yeah. So those disappearing -- features. You don't have a list of those. I I don't know. No it -- and it was a secure and we can provide that we haven't achieved it geography -- no. And gosh she's one has been meeting that. To -- you know -- It sort of in broad appeal -- who's curious about that one or. -- So so it is in Louisiana especially the it's evil that has risen relative to land it. Due to either global suitable riser -- civilized. War -- guidance. These formations have been disappearing problem. And when it says -- Will be raising the value of means to levels for self these coastal Louisiana those small or what does that mean. Well well. From mark -- stations around the country will be determined elevations of title items relevant to land. But the most of it -- does mean suitable one is tensions mean higher higher water. The amenable high water rights mean little water which as we used far. Are referenced him for no charge. It is -- aboriginal. Rights each day. All over a nineteen year period. However in Louisiana because the rain subsides -- rates of around nine millimeters a year. All were having to update these data operations at least five years as opposed to the typical serving nineteen years. Foremost the rest US. A pardon my -- what would slow millimeters zoom in in choose. It's well -- it's. Well -- is about three meters you know also. And for the leader. You know. So. It's you know fairly small in terms. He's thinking of the year but. Nine millimeters per year that rate you're looking at -- -- person entry. The president is that from our tri gate record that grand -- Since the 1940s we have a trend. -- mean it's sea level relative to Atlantic grant of about nine millimeters per year or approximately three feet per sentry. And part of via a new provision sort of free email. Says based on only -- -- to remove subside in cents a level rods nor will be adding. Approximately one and a half inches to the current means sea level of terrible perish. And the -- parishes mention of -- earlier on the southeastern coast. Does that mean that the borders can come up an interest I have more than what you'd have thought or it. We know that you have questions based upon option stations national projection. Of -- what's going to happen it's just a reflection of the fact that. Because sea level is rising recently canceled fast is that we update our official -- him elevations on our land benchmarks. So benchmark. You know now. Would have been lower five years ago now it's slightly you know that benchmark -- slightly lower than it is now relative to Agassi. So just a matter of having to update our elevations -- social data innovations that we use for charging. And Indians for the shoreline. Every five years. And and does it mean. More water less land or hire more. There's there's all. Higher water relative to land sea level rising relative to land and so we're just. Reflecting that in -- that fact in Art Tatum when patients. Aren't the -- sued the bruising new means to levels was -- every five years in the future. But one and a half to two inches is an important reality. Or southeast Louisiana parishes in your point. Terrible perished. That was only about one -- -- to feed of reborn do. Above the mean sea level would what does that mean. I'm not sure that's referred to -- board is probably the elevation and typical land elevation above means it'll now. Using free board means what you have above certain. -- elevation. Sort of suitable assume that means you're gonna have less slim than you thought. Bright -- harmlessly in the future than. With the current rate of land -- it's conceivable rise in those two factors you know act together. The consulate even more of an impact course. Interestingly we do a fighter update in Alaska. Alaska to yours where land is. Is actually rising relative to -- because of the loss of the week of the glaciers lessen the impact of climate change so. When it is actually rebounding rate. NC readjust those elevations of the five years in Juneau. Alaska's. There is -- -- of keep track of how much land laws we haven't -- museum. Problem. I've told. My office doesn't do that -- to opted shoreline change. -- I think the US GS markers that more persuasive as an agency. And -- because we always hear the losing. A football you'll every hour of Wear -- flag and put your organization wouldn't be monitoring yet. The tablets are people that are doing that but I don't know where you would go for social. Number. And and you probably. Don't have this information but. And in this you Milton sent to me so from the battery in your money you and you do strongholds in use and terrible. There's a recent program there. And and reports higher storm surge then -- oh on the -- -- ago. From hurricane Isaak. And what it points out is this the higher water from the golf pro Mubarak and there areas of growing open water is against the eastern edge of the -- -- to a protection project liberty. Broder know the reports that the people that lived next that the emergence of -- protection. Or concern. About changes in the topography and whatever -- this relate to that matters this just. It's not comment. Right gets its if it's just a realization that Seattle is indeed rising relative to land in the coast of Louisiana. So any storm in the future. We'll have more of an impact. The same storm today while more of an impact in the future because it. She's level is rising. So they stormed the actual storm tying and so and so this storm today would be to have more impact you know -- In several decades because you know trying to secure -- higher receivable from which the storm went right. It's -- and a pick occurred this information mode go to on the line in this thing you'll once the public to know about it in particular have not. Thank you so much for joining. Us. Our rights and thank you so much. -- -- would -- scientist for a National Oceanic and Atmospheric. Administration. To me this this just brings home. From another error where do you believe in global warming or. Melting knowledge. Glaciers or whatever. Or -- god. The -- top monitoring. Organization. Branded and government organizations. A lot of -- probably don't trust it. But saying this month. Nor is raising about them and similar problems were solved these Louisiana. Based on only their words only a five year period of -- -- guidance and sea level rise in other words. Just over the lives -- years. They've seen an increase that they need to warn us about. So there ending. Approximately. Issued ahead to the current means new level of terrible and cars look towards saint Charles Orleans -- commenced. Saint Bernard. And and that's based on. There's more -- going away. So we have -- wise agency level and there. Melting glaciers of global warming whatever its cause in the gulf. Too broad. And it and it kind of goes back to. The debate we've been happening. Over the last couple -- or whether -- 97. Oil companies. Companies. In Norwegian should be sued for the damage -- they've done to the wetlands could -- or our only protection the liberties. And the winners in the dead and or going to be enough. We bought up against the ago so a landslide. I haven't thought -- that the intent. And some of you following. An account hypothetical. That explains where I am on this debate -- -- it. Let's say you're very good for in the flick to. Known in upper -- His good friend for an answer. And he's very average at least helped you financially for very long time been very beneficial to your family. And would disappear and wealthy butcher doing -- infinite. -- he decides that room and try and that towers over your files and he has and you'll agree that the guarantees of paper in the clean it -- because usually have cleanup money. You aggrieved and because you -- -- even give you permits and to -- from whom to assure you the cleanup can be take care. In the process of -- of three balls under. The cost of repairing your home is extremely cause. You can report -- Area -- proven to pay a portion of the repairs. Although you hate to make that requests. -- rings and the rich and can support the cause in the bottom line and it is you can't live there would out his financial help. In paying for peace to the damage that he caught. For a long period of time he doesn't blow and two year to clean up. So you tell him reluctantly. -- take this issue to court if you're not gonna help. A question would be would that be fair on your part. Plus would be prayer. That through his neighbors and William political clout. He convinces the very politicians he helped elect. To take action that would read -- actively remove in the eagle. Requiring compensation for surge were issues like yours. In -- it is all -- inspected. The debate over the -- news sentinel. Have the oil companies not been our good prints. Course. There we nodded breathed -- word together so we could all benefit would it. Do we not see damage that was not intended to. Two forces out of our homes in ruin our business and our future. But is -- partially responsible for doing jobs. I can't find -- on the show all the record. Who believes that -- your deliberations could live here if we don't find the money to repair. The web play as best weekend. And we do not have enough money. Just ask congressman. For sport the last -- who is running with the senate. Do we have not well no but I'm getting to more. No boots and after Landry getting some more do we really believe the federal government can come Torre. So if we can afford the reporter. Do we have abandoned our businesses. We leave our home. Our culture. Our future. Failed to -- leaves south Louisiana. -- and -- that things were launched -- wrong or you don't agree with this hypothetical groups analogy. Called to procedural one -- these so. -- for it's XX rated nine and zero pizza. -- whatever we call it the pink. The words thing about the woodlands again because. Dealers -- About the wetlands in the news. Stirring of 97. Oil companies -- damage they did through -- yeah. Portland -- to get them to pay something back. In damages. We -- talk to congress -- this morning button of the subject. But I ask him if we have money we needed for the restoration he said no but. He's working on Bora nose and -- and resume working on more. But the financial people that I talk to -- And say they just don't see enough. We're talking about according to via coastal master plan minimum fifty billion. I'm real -- time you renovate or build something called school where -- and the cost could go up to a hundred billion so those that are experts in the field tell me it's not going to be UP anywhere in between fifty and hundred billion if not more. And everything up -- it's just not there get this email a couple of days ago. -- and know our national Oceanic atmospheric. Administration. And they're talking about open water and wrote. They're -- talking about over the border -- in terrible perishable foods electrodes Orleans plan or parish and Saint Bernard. And and it talks about means sea levels and says this law. This month. No -- will be brings in about you means sea level or sell these weekly and because. Based on only a five year period of subsided and and sea level wise. No will be adding approximately. One you have to interest of the current means -- level of terrible perish. And approved -- and trolls like couldn't seem to north. Better understand that we have David and be -- with this program director for Mississippi river delta restoration program with the national while that relief -- David -- showed Pritchard to. We just. A wrap of no war on -- -- -- sciences. And he certainly didn't say this but I got him from talking with the and his. Isn't really the big thing we do monitor the lists and we see a little bit of a rod has -- we let people know what do you think. You should I have prizes that. Any reason for re you concerned. Oh certainly it's a reason for real concern. But I it has to be placed into the context that. You know much of the planning the state master plan and and and the projects that the war in the state of preserving designing -- projects. -- are. Doing their best to take into account. -- these relatives you will rise it's you know it's not that it is who's. New information what we're seeing is that as time goes forward we're refining BS too much. We're we're giving them more fine tune. If you look at those estimates that -- it just sent out you know when you get -- fifty years. The the colder. If you wanna call it that. EU's. You know probably less than four. Between them high and low projections but when you're a hundred years it's up to 45 feet. And and as time goes forward like this is that that. That cone of uncertainty. Or the air in the prediction to get narrower -- so I think we can all expect to continue to hear from. From -- and others about about changing in refining the test. It's and recorder and the rising sea levels by noise every five years in the future. A -- and I have two inches is an important reality for parishes like terrible coverage. Because terrible only has one I have to -- re -- above mean sea level you can pre board means. I it just means that that's the average. -- eight. Of weapons and in lower terrible on parish. And therefore. It doesn't take much to overwhelm those those wept and remembered that -- that's a static comparisons so that assumes. That weapons are not growing vertically and there are saying that we can do things that we got planned. That could be implemented. That. Would help those existing marshes. To to begin growing more robustly verdict. They're not that's not possible everywhere in the states. They're places where we just can't get resource is there. But we have to start moving aggressively implement project in the master plan. That move. Resource it and so that these marches can grow harder. And and that's how you view you'd react to -- level. Do it should mentions. Higher water throughout his report and more in Korea. It talks about because of hurricane Isaac and then the rise in the gulf and supplies and there area of growing open border is against the eastern edge of the more against applaud protections Lebanese. Are you aware that in and what kind of problem is that. Market it's a huge problem with a huge problem for. Four coastal communities all over Louisiana. That are losing whatever marsh. Are part -- buffer there was between protection systems. And open water. And and that's why we're seeing. It's it's not just the case that it relatives sea level rise but it's the loss of those buffers that means that. Relatively trivial. A bench like like final passages. Are starting to push water against -- an -- cases into communities. It would seem that even ten or fifteen years ago. Broom when they single out to him or against implode protection project Lebanese. That that's not saying we're concerned about their collapse would damage. It's just pointing out that that the water's coming to rest again right. -- -- and of course you know -- if you talk to. The folks managing those systems in in terror about which direction is. You they have concerns about salt water against those -- obviously the levees are maintained with graphs and craft an optically like salt water at least most species down. They're easier to maintain. If we freshen up the systems and again. At least for some of those levees that can be accomplished. Through some of the master plan project. All right eternal mind and we keep -- for a couple more minutes to break. Let's go back and talk about some of the master planned projects you have their being and when and where and and what school and law. Governor -- Governor bill brigade celebrity -- and whipping at about of Portland -- to my curiosity -- national Oceanic atmospheric administration. There bobbled -- importance did based on only apply -- puree some guidance to global alliance. -- will be adding approximately one step inches to the -- means he love lives of terrible outrage. The percentage rose only concern and that means the open waters and parishes like terrible and urged. Or only guests of the border on average one up to two feet and no postponing now. Were aboard rising one 22 inches looks like every five years but. Escalated and reading. Currency and all this we have David duke with -- program director Mississippi River -- restoration program and for a while it. David we keep -- about the master -- ignored -- -- projects that are under way. Sure there are a number of projects under way that. Good deal of progress is being made on them that barrier island portions of that plan. And be coming out Hitler and you know which protects lower -- -- Perish. That pollution -- area leave bill on a golden meadow. It is actually. Eight. Got quite a bit of it constructed and they took a break for the winner because of the weather delays and they're going to be starting up against and that is actually mining and structure Scholl. And then transporting it. 27 miles and re pumping it out on to the Barrow and so they're in effect there adding and rebuilding the union speech based. Of that entire -- And they're doing the same thing over on the key -- Mean is that headline Hedlund. Is that a barrier island. Well it's it's what. It's what you get before you get a bear. It's there's still the march attached to the back and so we called -- but -- -- it in effect is that just the same will become a pair. They're doing the same saying on the east side in the dark area partners pay. I'm in plaque -- perish. -- with several projects over there and the good news. Is that we should be getting his decision. That about 350. Million dollars. From BP early -- money. Will be released for additional thorough work and that can take place. In in various parts of terror about smush your percent black and your actions. So I I think there's lot of progress there. There are a number of projects move forward that that involved and saying. Sentiment by pipeline from the bottom of the Mississippi River. Antley hermitage there about two do some more work on. Archer and -- which is between feet in myrtle grove. There are. Planning going on for. Project on the shortly land bridge. We're we're you know kind of waiting days for some of that were getting the planning on. Also very importantly. But getting back to this question of value. I get marshes growing verdict again you get them creating soil so that they can. Fight he will rise. Others. The stated in planning and design. On what's known as the mid air carried urgent matters and about forty million dollars. It's legislature approved the annual plan. And are also in design on several other diversions. A barrier designed to release sort conceptual planning in the several of the versions of Laura Kirk. You get over -- -- in there movie -- planning and design. On. On project she used the existing Bill Russell waterway. Which already runs from Morgan city Oklahoma. And to use that existing and out to convey more chapel -- war sentiment. Into the that is very terrible marshes were talking about patterns such dire straits right. Coupled with that is another master plan project. To build assault barrier in the on the navigation and again to get that balance back to where there's enough pressure for it. To protect our infrastructure and and to get the -- required to choke. There's a great deal going on there needs to be a great deal more. But. Kanye but I which trade that would make it pretty good start with which the money that we haven't BP money from it. That's -- gonna do everything we mentioned at all funded. Everything that I mentioned is funded now some of the planning projects the the the money for. You know we're we're still in the planning stage they're the of -- money is not appropriate for that. But what the state is -- looking at known sources of income. From BP and sort canceling and where that money come from each of these projects if you get to the design today. Remember that you know some of this is very preliminary these are ideas that we have to go through. Design and planning and we may decide -- certain point that that this. That there's a better way to build mousetrap and we're gonna move the project produced different. So they're not gonna commit that funding them but there is money in the pipeline to some of these things and obviously wants the case its level. Whenever that happens then there will be a good deal more. David it helps whom get a better understand what's going on -- pre shoot from the expertise of good day. It. They've moved the program under ms. appeared river delta restoration program we. National Wildlife Federation. Come right. Don't go -- alluded -- words from -- you Jazz Fest tickets. Well sporting. 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