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5-21-14 3:10pm Angela: on NOLA's workforce

May 21, 2014|

Angela talks about the workforce in New Orleans with Data Center chief demographer Allison Plyer and local real estate analyst Arthur Sterbcow.

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The whit talks so much on this program about the growth of New Orleans about the boom in building and do entrepreneurial businesses here. But who is moving to new Marlins is an out of towners or people from other parts of the metro area. Who's moving into not just downtown. But lake view mid city's central city plagued Vista John -- and New Orleans leased the marinate and the Ninth Ward. Here to talk about what is happening in our area is our third -- count of real estate analyst -- -- supplier. Executive director and chief demographer. Of the Davidson. Cannot thank you both enough for being with us I look forward to this -- really can't think I'm gonna start with Alison. Are demographer here. Who this year who has -- in what has changed since the storm -- demographics of the. City obviously changed -- post-Katrina we have a smaller share of the population is African American but it's still more than 50% well over close to 60%. And we do actually have a larger number of Hispanics. Than we did pre Katrina and we actually have still a smaller number of white residents and we did pre Katrina. And but so that's obvious he changed some things what's interesting is we also saw real dip in poverty. In the 2007 and 2000 meet timeframe as the poorer residents were less likely to return. But now actually poverty rates are just as high as they were pre Katrina which I think surprised a lot of folks let me tell you and your whole report. That is the one thing that blew me away that in -- child poverty. There were right back nothing changed right exactly you know and there we know certainly that there are a number of folks who were not able to return. Right and I think sometimes we don't appreciate you know a lot of us are doing okay and that's great. But the recession did. A lot of people hard. And so there were people who were not poor before the recession now car and that's true nationwide and it's true here too. So even though a lot of are poor population displaced we have some folks report for the first time in -- That is very very interesting. Arthur mr. -- has been here with us as we talked about some of the incredible things it. Some of the positives that are happening with the bloom. Wonderful retail room wonderful real estate boom wonderful building -- and these great young entrepreneurs who have come and making us feel better about ourselves. And now hopefully it will set groups to. But -- we didn't really look at that the poverty issue and it just it was -- start. I'm sorry you're you're exactly right we certainly have a problem in this area in terms of you know the average income per family. In Orleans -- specifically. But the region as a whole you'd be surprised if the property levels in Jefferson and some surrounding parishes that most people just don't really think about. But but probably the biggest change I've seen in the last few years. We've always had kind of an out migration of our local talent. All in Atlanta Houston. You know California and going to Colorado to visit the mountains what it now. Marijuana whatever -- call him up. But but there's been a real dramatic change in the residents seeking employment outside of the New Orleans area there are opportunities here. They are staying here in a greater percentage than they did the past we still lose weight too many. But it's nothing like it used today so that's very gratifying to see some of the locals. Young people graduating high school college trade schools whatever being able to -- local employment here in this area. Yeah you know I am I could so easily Angela that not many people I'm not actually from here alone mine now. In the immediate on the air. But I have lived here about sixteen years and -- different. The right -- you. And and but I grew up in Chicago and Atlanta San Francisco in new York and those places where it is have him. Really robust economies and we have a really robust economy which had a lot of people I think and also a lot of people leave. Right because there's just a lot of churn rate and so I think what's great now here in New Orleans before we had as a percent just people leaving because economy. Was a week. We finally have a strong economy and that means we have people coming up it doesn't mean some people leave because you know they're not define exactly the right opportunity here that still might look and Columbus -- New York are aware of either but that we can have people coming is the thing that we can be. Yeah I think that you know it it's that that we have it's a stronger economy but we're stronger than the areas that they used to -- to. Of the Atlantis are having their problems that Houston's than dallas' I mean they are they still have some issues going on -- and local areas but. Here we're we're not back to where we were pre Katrina in terms of home sales number of sales number of units. And that's a function not of our economy but just because of the the credit problems that are nationwide. So what we're still healthier than mostly United States which is a very positive thing to meals. You know that that is a very positive thing just to say and yet. I'm thinking about all these college graduation just last weekend and you know such a happy time for them. But you know if you add them all off from all of our wonderfully universities. How many of -- -- You know will they be able to use those degrees. Right yeah -- you know it all depends of what they're studying and now it's much more emphasis on the technology side of it in the colleges universities trade schools. That's where the demand is here locally without adopt. I ducked as a company around that -- ball went out I need -- people on my staff some really qualified. Web developers are intra net programmers. Is this just a shortage. Yeah some nationwide there's the shores of IT people in and also engineers and that's something that we need in large supply here as well because of the energy that's happening right. We don't see it right here in the city. But there's twenty billion dollars in energy and petrochemical investment going in. Along the river down home Tobago and those -- enormous jobs and then with the coast restoration -- -- that's happening -- and -- -- And we see an impact with the the tax credits for the software developers and technology that is certainly brought some companies and very small companies -- you would never been here. Three people two people came in to start something in those companies grow. But you know the reason they come near me is not the tax credits that the people are trying to higher. It's -- French Quarter it's Jazz Fest this morning it's it's on it's it's a young person's ten so. That is very attractive to it to the folks that are coming and unfortunately -- but a lot from Ankara after a couple of years find their mate and and raise their families here that's very common. It's hardly what you live here now I know that -- -- mr. -- We're glad that New York or San Cisco or Chicago didn't lure you back in the jury here they couldn't possible we're ready to take a quick break we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about who lives here. On after the well as we continue to look at our ever changing community. Today we're talking about. Who lives in New Orleans now post-Katrina post recession. And with us is Arthur -- count who was a real estate analyst -- Alice supplier who's executive director and chief demographer at the data center. Alison you were talking earlier about sort of the picture of where we are now vs post storm and some people have moved back in which is a great thing. And done and we have new -- to let's talk about. Age. Are we getting younger or are is this becoming a place where people really do wanna retire. Will. You one thing that is happening nationwide is the aging of the baby -- yes and and what that means is that the whole country is getting old. Just in the number of people who were in the older age brackets right so we're always please see. That have an influence on any demographics in any locality so one thing it influences we have war. Households that are single people living alone some of them elderly some of them -- not but that's just a more common in these days also means there's less households with children. Because there's we're not having a baby right now so you're gonna have a lot more households that don't have any children with either individuals or couples. So in and of course and generally the age spectrum is gonna skew higher but with fewer children. You're not going to be younger community here to get -- community get and that's true nationwide and that's true here. For for the single person households some of those could be those young people who have moved him. Doing all the great text often other things an entrepreneur thinks you know. If I were to do another dissertation it would be a single person households because. Everytime I look at the stats it's fascinating to expand the age range right we tend to think of them as either the other professionals or the elderly but really. Nearly half of them -- between 4565. -- time and so and nobody really has studied this and so it's not just about putting off -- age or even having a spouse died but it might have to to a divorce rates and all other kinds of things that we don't realize you if you sit and think for second about. Are your friends you know who actually live -- you realize. A lot of people who live alone but -- that's not what we see in the media so much we tend to forget about it. Arthur do you see that reflected in real estate. Sure. Obviously in -- culture is changed you know -- the fifties you know forties. On the divorce is probably rather -- 182. And a half naked now I don't know what the debris and -- could probably tell me a better but certainly. Much more likely to split into two households without a death and and less economic. House holes less pooled income so as a result routers. Or or lower standard of living than what they had when they were put together so yeah we certainly see that in in a lot of areas it's it's not just one area of the city it's that's pretty much widespread. Let me efficacy part of the point of the area of the city we focus so much on downtown -- the neat things that are happening. -- down here but there are other areas and -- other years that have come back I'm thinking of lake view in particular now is that. More the young young family that wants to root there and raise their kids. Yes it's schools in allegiance in schools schools schools you know tell me how -- the schools are an area and I'll tell you where people move into that's that's economy. With the exception of -- -- heavy. Construction a lot of infrastructure going on. Such as -- city. From the by a district. I don't think you know I talked to people from Jefferson or saint Tammany other areas around that are not that -- don't see it. And they have no concept of what's going on down there none and in to put it in some concept for folks who listing that are haven't seen it. The entire super dome complex is about 52 acres. The entire by district just 15100. Acres. You're talking over the lifespan. In excess of 30000 jobs. You're talk in the construction jobs. You know they're filling up mid city right. -- you -- a lot of those old beat up cottages beat up on glows. All being renovated -- streets being in put in for infrastructure. That's become a very hot area. Now you know we tracks the -- Households receiving mail because something you get -- that we have to wait every ten years for the senses and we looked at by zip code. And in the last year so probably -- -- to this month may. The sit could that had been the largest increase was 70115. Which is actually sort of uptown. Uptown than 70118. Then which is more about -- right than 70124. That's like you pretty much and then 70119. Which is that city. And so even though everybody then. Those top for the fifth one is 70117. Which is by waters everybody talks about I want her hands as because it's changing so fast but if you look at the sheer numbers of where the largest number of new households increased in. You know inhabited households are it's it's some of those other. Yeah and probably if you analyze those those areas you'd see that this probably larger percentage the average age a person moving in is younger than. Previously. So but everybody's anchoring is just more young people are tending to come in and and stay -- and again. Schools schools schools. That's been the biggest change in. -- -- here in Orleans parish in terms of attracting adult when people into the area but again. You know saint Tammany is still got great schools Jefferson Parish has got some great schools. The areas not as as I think a lot of people have jaded ideas of the school system compared to. Before Katrina. Well absolutely I mean it was a failed system but now we have these great. Successes and it's they're clearly building not on a much stronger foundation maybe people are getting that confidence back it's all about consumer confidence right. We got a caller let's let's go to David David. One pictured on the -- Struggling. And that we're -- And hours they'll have. There's good. Habit of talking about proper education. Or education. And were huge -- -- job -- and vocational training. Computers. But that college there's only and nurses are shocking thing. Universities and colleges and urged only gradually. -- -- person. Well there's still in order that are currently in colleges and it actually. That. Should cheer to -- that the in. Order amount of and we're looking for jobs. -- it sure well and putting that program for vocational. We're. Working a -- or should shoot outs and here. Did you at their college. Sir are you in a young. Vocational training program do. Companies. Yeah well. If you. Curriculum does and in the future. Industry. You're changing the story. Across college -- -- At pebble Ph.D. Across arm and follow where the young people. Better -- -- job. Well David. It's like I changed my voice and called myself David because you couldn't be more on point. Diseases I've talked to by and large. They just don't they don't have the workers. That they need trained how to do the jobs and and the other problem which it in this is you know sell houses okay half guilty as charged but. A lot of these students are so popular with college debt. And I going to be able by house years and I mean -- even if they get a decent job. There college debt is it is -- changed -- achievement it's a big properties to be just credit card debt was the big barrier. But but college at -- Indian -- and they know what you're talking about we've done a couple of shoes on -- you know with them. The various. Business groups who are crying. For help and but my understanding is there's a real. Forced now going so there is that integration with business and the schools. Just find out what do you need and how can we prepared them. Well -- need to do it -- agitators. And to open up their -- are uneducated. People. And after we catch a bill that sure job as an educator. You educate them so that's the only reason that a wonderful ambition. And never reach. -- -- a war. That the people. That are looking for jobs in touch with the people that the jobs and make sure that the building education. You know -- like education and education and an insult. Just -- -- -- higher education and alarming. -- -- -- -- do -- and gas business it's vocational education. Was still it was it was somebody who runs an air conditioning. Company large contractor here in locally. And he was complaining mightily he wants to retire and he doesn't have. Anybody underneath him experienced enough in his craft. That he can mentor and bring on wand in a short period of time -- Well we're mentioning. And thinking that a college education and young women and don't forget that yeah it's unfortunate that they are there is. As. A problem and getting jobs for the Gmail which -- program. And the whole show yeah yeah. That the people that short tactical college and they are -- street clothes. Industry and curriculum. Yeah now. This something that's totally -- is another report we did call about the new energy right and I mentioned it before in terms of engineers but David is absolutely right the largest demand is in the middle skilled jobs. So welders can can make 70000 dollars after a thirteen week treatment. And it did we tell us almost forget because you know here in Orleans -- -- of the hospitals and -- Man that's right the two billion dollars in investments but there's literally twenty billion dollars investment going in petrochemical. Well this year at least GDP. Because we put in training programs and nationally. That don't. It comes to how they -- they -- but both are judged by the partners but it do they do apart put out. But we need to change. To vocational -- And you know Arthur mentions another piece of it that's it that's -- demographic. There's -- at the retirement of the baby boomers strike so there -- all these folks who went into these skilled trades. You know 34 decades ago and they want to retire so even though we've got about 101000 jobs regionally in these -- skills that are opening up because of the energy them. We have 40000 openings coming in the next few years because of the retirement of the baby -- So we've literally called a tidal wave of -- jobs and that's why the employers are so anxious to find employees. Hate that we have to break for news David if you wanna stay on we'd love it I've truly appreciate your call and Randi we will get to you as well now let's go to the news. Real estate analyst Arthur -- cow and -- demographer Allison ply our guest were talking about. We're talking about New Orleans and area today and and who's living here and some of the changes that have happened. And and I'm loving the jewel -- -- let's go to our caller Randy. And George Bush and thank you. I'm. -- general contractor. Small. General contractor. Or what were you there in March contract. Plumbers electricians boring people sheet rock. -- -- I'd grade level or fair and who small over the years but do very well. All their. True for me all out there and are always looking to force someone to control. At the number one wallpaper. In open entry can you -- aren't somebody -- teachers -- to. And when you requires. Its goal. That is exactly what that this conversation has been about what is better. Everybody has to be president of bank. Yeah OJ -- just you know -- young people truly we are very glamorous. Truly you know in Europe a couple of parents are more first questions. Over -- and Shaq took the girl. But you know -- Graham a corporate. Typically. But you know all in all good quality you can make a good living. And -- -- who know these two decades of experience. Have only won the national. Accompanied coconut club loans immediately. Randy and David are saying the exact same thing and there totally correct. I don't know how to communicate to kids coming out of high school. -- were talking during the break about. Counselors yes -- maybe that's. Badly under utilized or misguided to. It in in the schools but I think these kids knew what the opportunities war. And at least give mobile -- to -- table of options yes and maybe just you know the the perception of that job may -- it stirred the it's it's sweaty it's just -- you know. Who knows I really don't know but. That's not the case in -- of its jobs. And there's a lot of middle management that give them never see outside -- an air conditioned offices but they're doing bits and contracts and in dealing with some contract. We can't just throw this out in this is only what we learned after Katrina this. We had a great influx of Hispanic people coming in who saved us in many ways and -- helping us. When I wonder if those people who come from a foreign country who really wanna be in this country and really. Want to make a good living. Are can we appeal to them. I'm talking about -- two up Randy. Well and understand that this program. And local high schools -- counselors. That they give it I understand that it is made for college. -- -- -- -- Suspect in the region but it gives you a little bit of my goal in. Screwdrivers or jail which way to turn the ball and not that I'm being compared to work -- -- -- and work we have actually. Better looking -- people didn't wanna clean piece scared. You I don't want you know any of the event on how you look at all I want you to shore up. I'm willing distribution will be -- Shattered what was electrician just like it or you don't work the diplomacy but you know -- -- born just a little. -- -- towards what your future show. How Beagle that just cheap joke. But keep it real -- -- -- GDP but. Also the goal is to stretch out your old company should you'll -- you'll. -- let me ask who are you hearing from. But your business group that they are having some response but then they don't show up they show once or twice. They have several crucial up 418. Or call the morning that this goes to show up but first and so they'd never more. They talk to somebody and somebody says you're gonna do bad. Yes the perception the stigma attached to -- you know it's a bed and and a and a logical statement. There was someone that I've talked to many many years ago another broker in an Allentown. And we were talking about some similar things about how -- we get these young people to go into real -- And real estate brokerage or commercial brokerage residential. And nieces are the races my experience he was a lot older than me and been around a lot a lot he was one of my mentors and he said Arthur races. A lot of the kids that we run up against. They see the nicest cars go past -- -- what does that guy do that's what I'm gonna do they want it now. You know granted they don't know. And I don't like to generalize that's totally unfair consists of people who you know as as you call we'll tell you -- of this guy he doesn't match that mode. We just need more of those kinds of people that kind of initiative. And that kind of conscientious this. That's where we're. We're not growing camera out because of our society. Like jolly young people engaged in manipulation instead in the back. And there is -- -- knowing that you have to give -- a little bit but that I had were. -- a little bit. Well you know there's also an instant reality of one thing I have to make a living you are great Randi thank you for calling we have to take another break we'll be right back. I love that we started off talk about his and wallets or morphing into we need workers. Very very quick with the killing of a few minutes let's start with Joseph in applause Jones. We're doing good but which you know. Vehicle or social. Contract well that's a lot of -- 08. -- -- one. America. Looking for mechanics get -- -- -- field that's comment. Oh. -- it was since Beijing and Seoul. Today unit -- -- bigger story. Oh my gosh that's a field we have here. A little extra to which -- credit -- right person wearing it. Well the money if you -- in five years you want but don't bring your ought to look at what you gonna work or it will be no mechanics to do. -- Joseph I really appreciate you calling it we're gonna do follow up on this and -- I hope you'll call back. I think people do things are caught -- to cope with deal or are you are you're certainly. What the dealership and all -- is a graduate course the idea that green and I do. Just -- department could stand -- yeah it takes to get to -- don't get that -- Do we hear you Joseph thank you so much. I hate that were out of time -- and David I'm so sorry we will do this again I hope -- will call back. I know you have a lot to say and we will get you all back as well. You were great. I loved every second of this an interesting if you were saying the poverty is still the same. Yeah but by golly doesn't have to be if all those jobs around there and that's what we need -- we do thank you both thank you all for listening we'll be right -- -- Final thoughts from our very wonderful guest Arthur -- cal and Allen supplier about the future of the puck. Elation in our area. So I would. Expect that it would continue to grow certainly and you know we know demographers note that population grows and she shrinks in parallel with jobs. And we are definitely on an upswing in terms of job creation. You know the energy boom. That folks have talked about is is gonna continue to grow jobs in this region for quite awhile so I would expect that the population will continue to grow and within the city itself. As a city improves its amenities improves its schools you know has other amenities such as attractive folks we'll choose the city. Rather than spleen in the suburbs as so often happens in previous decades -- -- Kinda look to the holy trinity of of what's gonna attract people in this upcoming years and holy trinity in real estate is French Quarter fest more McGraw this fast. And the more people that come. To those events within three years that's a protector of -- sales. That is incredible out of the mouth of -- -- count -- supplier thank you both very much thank you and we'll see you all tomorrow.