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7-17-14 11:10am Garland: on new schooling methods

Jul 17, 2014|

Garland talks with Matt Candler of 4.0 Schools, John Fraboni of Operation Spark, and Monique Wilson of Parents As Partners about new ways to educate kids.

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-- welcome back. Where we're doing something that. I find her -- -- for a very very long time New Orleans is a unique place it used to wonder what would you please people room content. But I'm not sure there was a place where people. Wanted to come do business in particular in education. Now get some to call four point old schools that that I think most of you know where. In the beltway I describe it accurately he has been doing better is his the on from put into words. From all over the we're working on different ways. Come August spurs -- I'm reading correctly. Bigger and have a meeting students teachers parent you can with the call coworkers. And they're gonna tell you about nine example with the future of -- merging reasons. And education. Here we have a met -- with this suit the founder rule book. Four point oh Matt welcome to show it's always retrieved and deceit on under you guys just a little -- so appreciate them. And we have our job and revolting you operations. Or true and thank you for covered up only will soon. Thank you -- money couldn't figure out and Luke in Britain -- -- accused of limps off obviously. Tell me about what you're doing and how that -- sought for. Craig Arnold thanks good to be with you again four point oh. Does not believe that we have the school system that we could have in new or Owens and now I don't believe that any city as the schools that kids deserve. So what we do is we acknowledge that. Even in the city like New Orleans we could say a lot of activity has been. Has been aimed at making our schools better. There's much more weakened due to make schools and learning for kids truly. -- imaginative. And and capture the -- passion. So the nine organizations that are gonna present. What they're working on August 1 are all led by entrepreneurs. And educators. -- liked the three folks that you're gonna talk to today. Because they believe that the future of school can be much more engaging -- much more personalized. And much more focused on each kid's passion and annual here three. Concepts today. And you'll here nine on August 1 here in New Orleans. That demonstrate that New Orleans is a place where we admit that schools are not what they could be but we are making lots of very small. Bets on what the future looks like. And that's what we do it for who knows we give teachers parents even kids themselves the resources in the training. To try something bolder bigger better. And we give them feedback on whether that idea works and if it does we help them build a company years. Reports from -- -- is just a little microscopic. Do. Tell him who's so maybe you're funders are people putting millions. Well we've the gates foundation -- very big supporter from the very first and we really appreciate what they're doing. And I think they give us money along with the Walton Family Foundation. And that goes -- the money they are they are but I think they believe that. It's worth investing in the future and what that what things hold it that we don't have all answers that we need and and they've been willing to make a -- on us and we really respect that they've they've -- -- delivered them in the city. That -- -- -- Jones provoke me you look like and I discovered troops for me. That -- jazz artists -- you're -- video game industry. Tour of Chinese opera house is true. And you with four point -- working loans grew. Yeah. I felt compelled to be trying to to do so close to -- I felt compelled to try to make an attempt to. Eatery on on a small project whose seat he can make a difference. Present -- software to opportunity youth. Give them something about which that you passionate and taken seriously and you take them seriously in their pursuit of of this passion. In I found partnering with four point oh I have great respect for the process that they're following which is. You know treat this these these these this research liken it like a start up you know something that we can -- on with without you know a lot of overhead cost and improve rapidly. Hand there incubators is just -- invaluable for this process or where you're from where I was born in northern Ontario Canada I was classless and you know. -- Video game and honey you're about 41 -- Well actually through both two -- center for public service and also a -- -- happening nomad and when I came down here I started this program teaching kids how to build video games and community senators. And they said to me many article NC -- -- at four point that spark that's operations park or tell put them. So the idea really was I started out you know teaching kids how to build more about video games and in community centers and started with -- and asked me senator -- the to remain. And the idea was really to present the fastest route into careers software development so really focus on the fundamentals of what software development. What it's all about but in a compelling environment. And as a rule that would to capture the video game. Education. That links with this or you aren't sure -- it's something an updated. Video. To capture video or two I mean there's so you worked in the video game and yes so what does that match. Yeah absolutely I mean the fundamentals of a building a video gamers seems building an enterprise level piece of software so with the skills that we're learning we're touching on you can apply that in any field of software development. I find that video games are compelling for young adults because say they'll play them all they'll you know that everybody android phone. And tell stories that and the stories commuted the participants. Are we gonna come back give more details got to pick our first break. And I know you know Tulane Loyola and doing listen because they go a lot of email what it called for me. The good question your teacher they're your parent out there which would you're hearing him. What's happening all of this city in various industries. This woman happens to be screw. We're changing becoming a different city. With the same great culture -- men. But now and overly. Of innovation and creativity you and then. Patenting. Potential products it can be sold elsewhere. Give us call if you go to questions or comments to 601. He'd -- only. Toll free 866 -- and 087. Are welcome back we're we're talking about 04 point oh screw the uses a via. School funded. And can -- body. Balt and then Wal-Mart and bill and Melinda Gates and it's attracting people from all over the world. To look at and you away. Look at new ways of school teaching and learning. August 1 and I'll get. Exactly who what when and where -- met -- heads -- -- They're gonna have fourteen leaders come and -- -- students teachers parent holders. And they're gonna and bill not an example of futures school. Don't think it's of the people involved at least involved four point -- world with the today drawn from owning. -- an organization call operations sport. And Wilson as parents as partners Putin recently graduated with a and in a year from the Wharton school. Of the university it into play. From that you have Copeland. And you're just -- rumors -- As a major in management of social impact and change you created a major. Yes so that warning if that the majors that they already have don't fit what you wanna study are allowed to create individualized meat and so. They didn't have one yet for social impact so I made up my own. And do that yes that featured the -- It didn't sound creative curriculum is that all we needed individualized nature and you'd go through. Year. Course work for the amnesia with the professor at that's ally in that field and then they approve. At the major -- course -- Before getting into your from Brooklyn I'm from Brooklyn geoghan. Wharton. And is kind of industry -- what what that it. Yes so I had always been interested in education as a means of increasing opportunity. -- for people particularly people from low income backgrounds and it. I was working at eight charter network in Brooklyn. And end it was -- a very data driven organization and one of the leaders they spoke about her business background that type and to sit in business. And thinking about I entrepreneurship as a way to. Make a larger impact in the field of education and and so ended up going award and going to business school found out about four point -- threw it. Ed surge which is a newsletter that sort of cultivate things that are happening in education and text field and came down here nor. Who will bring you read about issue of part of what you're doing. In text and the rotation. What what is that. Yes so I'm a former kindergarten teacher. And when I was teaching can -- in one of the things that I realize is that when I was telling parents to. Read with their children home there isn't a big gap between what I meant and what I thought. What I need to be effective practice and my parents thought I was reading effectively with there children and so started writing notes and guides telling them the kinds of questions asked and things to say. Am and then thinking that they said before how to make a bigger impact realizing that this is summit to be scaled up creating notes and guy that can reach out to families and kids. So for low income families they've literally could teacher at home using this. So I mean this isn't. But it's a completely teach at home but definitely -- -- have been more effective help their students practice helped them become better readers at home definitely. And and I don't have much education. And -- by a seventeen year old daughter breaks out. For economic -- physics of whatever is this in Texan and rotation would that help apparently at least. Have a prayer as to what they're doing. So add this focuses on reading and it definitely gives parents who don't saying no the best literacy practices act. It gives an information and gives them a way to understand how they can work through reading with their -- to help them get better. And Lou hindered how did you group -- by it won't matter who were surged to. What is it discern user and discovery brought. Those -- -- absolutely so yes so it was not a Linear -- So I'll be -- scientists my wife is the scientists are friends of scientists and you know we started seeing what -- kids were doing in schools. Especially in science class and we started realizing. They're not doing anything that we as scientists do. Why is this. -- -- whoa why are we trying to teach them science in this different way in school than expected them to -- to scientists and technologists encoders and other things. When they get out into the real world. So. You know we started to look at that problem and started to as scientists kinda figure out you know -- the question how to get around how they try to make solution for this thing. We started thinking. They're one of the things. Kids aren't doing they're not bringing in discoveries they make themselves into their class. You know they're not bringing in that tree they saw over the weekend with their parents in the park they're not. Trying to measuring. The temperature in the pawn in their backyard or in their schools are not using that kind of stuff to really getting caged and in an answer to learn about the things that we're trying to teach math science. So. We set a -- sermon come and Acer and its via old English read of the words seed. Really thinking about you know having the kids bring in the -- their knowledge into the classroom. And as scientists and not educators we sort of played around without for awhile until we finally you know decided we got to figure out how. He translate only science ideas and education that's where we. And connected up with four point oh. Looking for a someone in the organization that really kind of help us guide us as we thought about building out a tool that now could help. Students learn about science really the way scientists do that's our objective coupon or one. Yes so we're from. The Boston area and and there's a lot of education activity going on there. Com but one day I came cross section of the website and started speaking to some of the folks at four porno and they just have. And -- wonderful philosophy. About how you innovate in education I think a lot of folks will hear things about anti tack and arch partnership. And I think a lot of people interpret that as how do you make money on the school system first -- make something financially viable. And what four point -- to me was was really about the ideas it's like bring great ideas to education than let's figure out how we're gonna make those happen. In the -- you just mentioned Austin certainly a lot of entrepreneur or activities. Whether beer Al Hoffman foundation will be so can only. Blog soon blogs that you are turning to this kind of thing you needed him to attract technology and that group's backing. One here. I think New Orleans has something very unique here. -- Yeah two. You know and I think it really is and I think what -- four point -- team is doing is taking. May be you know a different approach -- to this problem. I think we're very used to having you know the Silicon Valley approach which has its own style we have the Boston the northeast approach has its own style. And I honestly think that education was looking for something else and I think you know it it may be not be treated somewhere else. But what's different. I think one one difference just personally as an -- work and work and that this for twenty years. And I cannot realize the problem my thought I was solving was that system was broken and someone had broken and now is going to be the good guys fix it and I think what we learned. And in New Orleans is that the system is not broken it's obsolete. The framework of public schooling in the US is a 10200. May be 300 years old. And we never stepped back to say what do our kids need to thrive in the global world that they're gonna live and that there are you a man. And when you realize that the problem is obsolescence. It means that their lots of elements that need to be improved upon and instead of thinking about. Going into a cave in coming out with a magic silver bullet that will solve the problem all at once you have to approach it in a much more curious. Small -- way and so what we've tried to accomplish. In New Orleans is. See how small that we can make it's still a very bold idea. But Monique working with a small group of parents tomorrow night. At a library. Is the beginning of what could be a massive change in how parents are engaged in their kids' school. Is very much could become you know -- What trade and almond tree tips to give your daughter. And at that very that moment she needs them and it's that -- of that idea that we wanna let these. Bold thinkers. Start with. And approach the approach is to -- it all back to that core idea try that out at a small scale and an injury from that starting point. We're gonna take a break for a new when we come back. -- -- don't inquiries -- the funeral and we're not concerned from what about the profit motive that the justices. Innovation and change. I had to scientists on from India Andersen -- That thing they have developed a vaccine that blocked. Cocaine addiction. -- when the -- methamphetamine. Addiction. But they need big distribution big production. And there's no profit and it performs through quote companies sort sits there so when we come back -- it's -- Not to think about the profit -- -- who of this innovative. Product. Having gotten to justice. Come right back. Yeah. Got to be very candid. These kind of shows excite me. I was one of them wouldn't popular for a long time not very popular prolonged and because -- is -- I talked about the -- -- you recognize a good thing but it kept saying. We we need to have some new book we have need to have some new thinking. And Katrina. Below the nightmare it cause I think cause exactly that we get a prime example today. We're talking about four point -- schools. That drive and scored your work and listening go on. I know that England schools. Every time return room there's some there's calm and cool -- there's no child lip and and they still don't. Two pledged to. But this is totally different that handler. That it's up and it and the brawling we have explained in this -- that science. Is its strong things that haven't been fraud that are often fail. And hoping to come up with tiny crumbles and change. The move to promote QB got big change. Matt for those are just tuned in explained again. What dog goes groups trying to do -- told about August. First church so. And again we're trying to create a community of people. Who want to see. Dramatically better schools for kids and that means any idea note no ideas too small no problem -- to insignificant to attack. And on August 1 at 643 magazine which is the same building where the idea village's. At 6 o'clock we will present. Nine of these promising ideas. They're not silver bullets but they each have tremendous potential. To make kids more excited about what they're learning to help parents better understand how they can help kids every night. At home and so we're thrilled to be able to be a place where these incredibly passionate. And talented leaders come to refine those ideas and make them better. And that's all four when it does is we allow people who already have good ideas to make those ideas better and it on the first. On August 1 you get a chance to see those folks in person here what their building and give them feedback on how to make it better. -- public show over as quickly as the can. To sitcoms are from Luka and want via sciences to appear that were involved four point ago. And I mentioned decided to his side have -- and that is predicting. That in the relatively near future computers won't make themselves and each computer will be fractionally better than the other. And that's that that -- science fiction stuff that's hard to believe but it wasn't a couple weeks later after that scientists. I had a scientist on the -- worked for a couple would have technologies trying to make it translation. Out. And they put in thirty million bourses in the couldn't get a word good they had it on the death. And somebody's what we ought to be able to get directions -- -- so and so. And the -- two blocks down turnpike. It's on the third street plug in that. Was the birth of series. The divorce. Of apple. And it happened. Because. Information I guess I'll really isn't that better into the -- on the computer. Created something that they weren't even sure it got created. And other I was talking to Kendrick who is a scientist. And that's kind of what you get trying to get kids to do right. Yeah and I think there were two things they're two concepts the first one is really we do learn from mistakes and it should be okay debate. Mystics. That's something that in our school system we really do very poor job both of enabling. But the second thing is. It also you've made the mistake -- May -- you've left out your little Petri dish a little bit too long and something's happening you have to then have the skills. The observational skills. The inquiry skills to say hey there's something going on here. And there's something wanna pursue and in your example of apple you know those guys probably heard what apple. Product was doing what they were also Smart enough and ready enough to say this is something that's important -- we should follow up and I think that's exactly the type skills we want to. He really infusing into our kids how do we teach him. To have that ability don't worry about filling but you know when you do see something interesting figure out what it means. And when the does that work with the where you work with children and. Definitely -- say that exactly what we've said it's the skill that we tried to teach. -- so I -- can write and I think that's you know at this early stage tonight each Friday help children. Hold onto that these mistakes are how you learn and -- they -- Won't have be taken out of them as they continue their schooling thinking about how to communicate that to parents -- -- -- big question. Had that. I'm working with right now on thinking about how do we not only communicate information and knowledge to parents but also talk about their approaches and how they're going into working with their kids so their kids to develop those skills. -- We hear so much action and -- trial following your pet. I can't find very many people have you've got you cut. You've worked in the evening and through video game industry. What are you didn't want children and in what part of your method has the potential. To get that passionate about what they do. Right. Well software development in general this is a wide wide field it's not just computer science right. There's graphic cards animation content creation design all of these things so. Just dealing simple lap you gotta touch on all of that I mean. That's applicable to many many fields. In employment -- so I think. That the key is discovery you know really poking around in figuring stuff out -- through the process of creation. The discovery of what it is you're passionate about it I think software such amazing feel -- that to so many things to sort of like you know touch on discovery in -- Or when we come back mostly broken don't agree each and every one you'd say okay. Take me to the person. Or clips and blood what's different. What did aprons or the expectations. Doubled up. -- -- limited time from -- shore were talking about really you innovation. In education it is like your New Orleans. Call four point -- grooves and I always say this because I think it lends a lot of credibility. It's shoestring operation it's here for years and calling. Funded in in part. People little -- board bill and Melinda Gates. Big organization that thinks this this is ruling -- it stings but could change educational of this country. And we got -- -- for -- weather right now with tremendous in education and John from voting you did you. Musicians. And your ball and video games. You've created something called sports are. A political. And her son come. You get -- hot -- and what do you do with its. More yeah I think one of the things is to just convey. You know. What you start using real tools you know get get kids on and and on computers and and using the command line using text editors building relapse I think if they see that. There's nothing to be afraid of there and they can they can actually produce something even very simply. He sparked the interest at that point. And you know we're using high level languages now expressing logic in the concepts of programming are quite a bit easier to -- now than they were forty years ago. So object or to programming day one. Monica. Talk among the quilts and never betting that accomplished what you accomplished in the U Wharton school. From within an hour ago so it -- you created your own met me. You women and men who went for social impact and change. -- are you got an extraordinary occasion extraordinary room. Credentials. And you formed parents and partnered UP. What would you do what you and -- thing. Where people this and -- learn more. More so I think at going back to what you asked before the break about what's the difference from what it looks like I think that currently there. A lot of times the disconnect between home and school Matt and what you have is you know people on the school -- teachers. Asking parents to work with their children home may be frustrated that they're not getting it back parents on the other side wanting to help their kids. But not knowing how feeling frustrated also maybe feeling a little bit of worry not knowing that what they're doing is correct end. But this does is it provides the act for the parents it provides a way to educate them to engage them and make them. Effective partners in their -- education so they can do. Exactly what they hope they can do that home work with their children and help them get that uses sole supporters of book yesterday's Starbucks that let. Then as a -- forward and literacy so their books with and it hit it guides. I think the goal is -- -- tighten up before that it starts with literacy and early elementary. And eventually it can expand to other grades other subjects and be a way for parents to engage with their -- at -- And Lou kindred -- Your assignment is and what is it it your discovery project -- -- -- it is. It didn't -- when I was kid in biology. Or mathematics. The minute. They said something and and -- and I thought OK you stupid don't ever get fit and had just quit. -- get kids into. The passion. -- So. A division that we have is that in class where the teaches using the computer tools that -- and delivers. The kids will actually be. Having the confidence to be asking those questions when they don't understand that because often enough to stand up in Seattle skeptics are gonna ask a different question what. Because they're gonna have gone through the process the scientific process. Many times they don't understand. That it's a very big and understand how they do it they're gonna have. Confidence in their own ability to answer their questions aim at the big difference. Right now suspicions science students look towards the teachers -- -- to -- all the answers. In an -- and class the kids will be the ones asking and answering the questions and they'll also. Have the social skills and and and the ability to go to that appears to other students are here to really get that. Can you help. Will there be taught that. Seeing I don't know as formal -- Dopey talk that. Any question and any answers goalie to next question so. And I don't know is not the end point. Right that they'll they'll say that I don't know was just another way of saying I still have another question asked. Americans -- brutal hours ago there. Or bruises. -- -- an education today. I know people in foreign countries. You have company offices all over the world. And we just don't seem to measure up get. School union representatives on the notes. Can we do the basics. Awe of them and they give me some reason that certain legal -- and when I talk to the administration. Or schools and same thing what's going on -- -- -- But it can be changed correlate and that and I and his throughout learned as an educator in it for twenty years that. The system's not broken. As -- said it's obsolete and and everyone. Who is working in their butt off in this system to do good things for kids deals with the drag. That this big burly. Slow moving wooden wheeled concept of schooling. The same basic literacy and the same basic skills for the same average kid but that's the way our schools were built. And they were not designed to prepare kids for world where the scientific method where creativity where their passion can be unleashed. In careers that leverage our. Capacity as a country to be creatives to be innovators this is our legacy is a country but our system was not designed to capture that. And that's what we're trying to do is bring this down to a small human scale. And when you try new ideas -- a small human scale with a handful of kids and families first. EC really really exciting things that lead to a very promising future. Got about a minute tell people are worse August 1 him before you do your original building. Right -- -- portage -- Betty is brilliant that your -- going good dungeon this is really -- usual place. -- -- people that are doing innovation and technology and we never corrupt. Well it is I'm glad you raised it I. The more time I spend with people who are trying to build. Base for lunch partnership here in new lines the more I realize I don't really know that much about what school could be. Those guys to the young entrepreneurs who were trying new ideas and are willing to share with each other the ideas they have it at earliest stages. They know that's what school should look like or August 1 643 magazine street 6 PM. You get to meet these three incredible people and you get to meet twelve more who are working on. Ideas that represent the future schooling not just in New Orleans but in the entire country. -- and brutal and believe me when -- say thank you for coming on the show me have been in particular. Thank you for coming to New Orleans. See your August 1. -- thanks -- Reverted million time roads bridges in the United States in bad shape. -- infrastructure much more money needed. The -- news or those planes correct. Would try to find out of the media coming outwards they would lose doubled up L negated celebrity area moral plied the -- fed.