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7-31-14 10:10am Garland: on how to pay for repairs in NOLA

Jul 31, 2014|

Garland talks with Janet Howard of BGR and Freddy Yoder of the Lakeview Civic Improvement Association about where the money should come from for r

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Today today in the pink -- I talked to governor. Not ours we never do. Pro Michigan. And a Democrat. Would choose and a -- lose -- vote credentials. -- accomplishments. During your tenure including. Cutting back on government. A law that -- the democratic. Governor. So we're gonna talk current -- -- secrets are. And nuts. And bolts of Republicans. Think Obama should be impeached when you the Republican leaders -- ball -- absolutely that the growth Tuesday men ordered. Raised money. To try to figure out who's telling the truth and does the truth really matter when the questions. That's our sales and one of the subjects of -- -- law Golden -- and so was in our streets. Everybody is talking about it and tremendous. Construction repairs school right now but I think of Wear and standard that's -- -- A lot of the streets in desperate need to repair and we've we've apparently. The -- could be wrong don't have them report. Recently there was video fix my street's campaign in the -- do you. We're gonna talk to these. Vice president -- abuse -- public improvement association board and the chairman of the infrastructure committee. 1035. That's our job -- Howard presidency you will be due arm -- -- government and searched jones'. And the reason -- agenda to stay with the improvement. -- we're Harper's read this as it. I think I remember. A number of studies be your shirt -- went back took a look at it and and they've -- street mark street smarts maintain. A New Orleans route network that doesn't. The price of civilization. About infrastructure. And they've done a reporter on nonprofits -- Janet thank you so I. So give me your overall -- -- -- what's happening it is this collect wetlands has viewed go to wouldn't say we're going to be people Britain. We've been talking about the three years. Well but talking about for years I'm -- other people are starting to talk about it tip about how things get done. And we created actually a portal on our web site BGR dot org Garland -- -- these reports you're talking about easily accept. We start looking at streets -- We have back in 2008. And the issue there was this really didn't have what is pretty basic streets management program. And -- in the streets management program at some with the program whereby they have set the conditions streets giving need maintenance debate need major repairs to -- reconstruction. They had that sense that in metrics for doing that they then prioritize. The needs on the basis other banned political. And go about repairing them based on that program. We don't have patent. Still we still don't have that place and the last assessment that was done its street condition and I believe it was in 2004. The programs should be in place -- should be done yet committed to major project -- beginning but then sometimes should be kept up through data collection on a regular basis. Only if you have that kind of information you really come up with. Eddie the costs. And the allocation of Greece to exit. Have had talked to anybody with the civilian and my question argue Gore's. It's seems like do basic com and since you've got to know what needs retiring before you can repair. That does things like basic common sense and it's something that really needs to be to be done. And on the other hand goes on you you'd be you have -- organizational issues -- beyond that you've got a real funding problem India and the city. And the city is spending less than three million dollars a year on street maintenance. Stopped by confidently looked at Andrews in 2008. It was spending -- reformed -- dollars a year. So that technology company how seriously underfunded we are. And that period if you don't have it maintenance that's so important that if you don't patched things that can meet and they become major major expenses down zero. And again you received no. Indication. In this administration. That they have because it in the -- -- streets meeting -- wrote in the reports. One of things they've been more than do was determine the condition that the percentage rates can they do that if we don't have. An assessment mechanism. I think they're looking and it's kind of a volunteer effort I think you do it it's kind of thing at this -- in the city itself really should be. -- -- -- I think they've you know the more likely to have that the proper equipment it's better effort for doing the about more precise measurement. Now I'm told they're looking into it. Time and we'll see what happens there. And this suit you you probably nothing to engineering but oval in a lot. Or have been curious when you look at suiting particularly in the league view where. I mean give -- speaks labs of street. Is it to determine whether that's caused by broken pipes or infrastructure going bad or it's just the -- bit itself. You know dramatic rebuke -- true. Regardless of you know it's so. All right -- that it brings them right back -- -- for a few Mormon and shoot. And the league news civic -- In improvement association. As a campaign called fiction -- -- -- they were given -- a mighty effort to do something about three conditions said the blood and I think not -- -- lake -- and but is -- of their campaign or remember that you have your -- or move church a bug and now. As that this since 2008. With three majors studies intended nor does. Agenda the odd thing was second report the price of civilization. Addressing infrastructure needs in New Orleans or what what would you look at then boarded. Well what we looked at them well it. Kind of could -- -- protectionist tendencies sometimes just to focus on one aspect streets for example or schools are trying to figure out whether the capital needs. For. All these major areas the government spending what that we need for the sewerage and water board what do we need for a waters and range would need for street. What that we need preschool. We can -- prepared reconstruction. And we -- obviously it's been a surprise anybody that we have that problem that totals billions contains billions dollars. And I have to -- our numbers are in many cases just based on. Very rough -- to come from. The government because like that things like the the basic and now if you haven't been done. Beyond that you have -- you have huge need and you hit it limits on the local capacity -- it's -- to your state has. Debt limit. There are on ratings has taken account local debt burdens and beyond that you can't taxing capacity of the community. And here we have. A big structural problems in an shortly and it's a problem that goes to the hard way that we are really going to be able to deal with -- issues. Like -- street and that is so much of the property is soft attacks. And we didn't study in 1996. Stich said the two thirds of the property in Orleans parish is off the top of the bout -- soft the tax cut means 13 is carrying the entire burden. Two thirds don't. Two thirds to -- And since then. We've that you did they did have a problem is these sensors don't keep good records of exempt property -- record that they -- -- on the tax rules but they don't -- property that -- that -- you don't. Record overtime don't show. Changes and that that. But we. Look at -- -- date value the explain properties content -- up a 146%. Since then. If there's this that it had reassessed the -- properties that the same level it would still be in the 60%. 60% range for properties up attacks. Now that two things happen -- wonders if there to issue because the cost burden is transferred to other taxpayers. Who. And that paying Milledge at a higher rate than they would need to for the equivalent amount of services. Or infrastructure if everybody in the tank. Or you do without services and you do without infrastructure and I think it's pretty easy look New Orleans to see. We're doing without infrastructure. So how do you -- public we think -- basically you have to get more of this tax exempt property. Back on the tax. And he did tell me who who -- -- for a nonprofit. That Jews are different what is. Three gets pretty basic groups that are our tax exempt an exemption rules -- that idea and constitution and state law. So localities to have to live with that. But they control administration's one group is government and that is actually the biggest group tax exempt properties in. Orleans Terry beginning you can't tax the federal government the -- can't tax mistake ever -- that's kind of he can't turn their prayers solicit the other two groups and it's pretty pretty equally divided between. I can't setting where it was back in 1996 but it's changed the other groups and nonprofit properties in homestead except property. Non profit in the homes that are spent. And we have been looking for a longer than we've looked at the streets that the issue. The tax exempt property. And there are couple problems in them multiple problems here besides the amount of property that they represent in terms of value. Extremely extremely generous terms exempting property. In those places for example for property to be exempt yet to be actually directly used in the mission and nonprofit organization. Not so one Louisiana. A property can be held by -- on partly it if it's used for commercial profit purposes it's taxable but if it's just held for investment. It's not taxable. And says things like that are just the desert and basic. Sixes that should be may. We -- to have a far broader range of properties that are tax exempted Louisiana then and other place. And if so what do you do about it now. We looked at it looked -- it completely I think that a couple things need to happen one is -- that you need to change the use requirement. You need to rein in these extensions but we think the constitution needs to be redone to accept that -- -- the state defined broadly. In and the constitution what kind of properties are exempt. Have the state legislature. Narrow that group. And we've also suggested providing a local option for local governments decide whether or not they want summerall of these exceptions to apply because it is the local governments. Not the state legislature. -- takes see it from the nonprofit exception. A huge if the government to mix the bigger piece of the -- Out of the reviewed cupid does apply and that are not contributing to infrastructure not paying property taxes. It is good the nonprofit category in the homestead exemption categories. -- those very long hard. They're Clark do you say they are large -- I think when 1996 we've got a 20% of the properties architectural or nonprofit. Says that the lord as a large groups. -- it and then to be looked at now. One of the ways that. You can get more property on the tax rolls and putting in some cases even federal properties is to switch from property taxes. To see for example there was water board right now looking at the issue of the -- The federal government has said it will pay drinks see burst -- storm water is -- properly. Constructed. Said added another option that's worth looking. That would apply to non profits also. You -- your midterm -- -- statements in -- investigation. Billions and billions and billions of dollars in -- so we can cover it with the club right now. And abusive we basically would really have to deal group whether or not we can solve these problems. Do you see enough in the two thirds of the possible. And and true categories. That would cover the billions and billions and billions and let me give an example in Detroit mayor of part wrong here. Over a billion dollars we need for broking broken drinking water pipes in and I don't think we of that money is that correct. Well yes but the they'd be the entry did -- waters take character use succeed. For the most part and that was done that's what we're facing me in the weather is facing increases right now in that area. But the increases that we -- City Council approved or not sufficient to cover. The entire needs and the water area to not to take care of the basic treatment plant and facility problems. But it's and a portion of the network pipe network leaking network that very little of the network is actually going to be addressed through that. So -- at a forum asking orb we need. As a city. Kicking a lot of Kenyans -- on the road to an end and if whatever comes who were -- in. UC resources. That could pay for it if we were reports tonight. I think right now we are in camp has been kicked down the sport for decades at this point and we're we're there we're gonna have to start dealing with. The problem and and I insist that I don't think the problem is going to be addressed without dealing with the structural limitations on the city's revenue raising ability it's impossible. How far those -- that will go you know even if you put everything -- addressed that. I don't know I can't tell you this -- how many how far down in your list of the daily insulin that's fixing but it'll be a lot farther than we're going to be able to do now which is apparently. Sort of what you say and Greg -- upon the cylinders and you -- and nonprofits. That not being property taxes that problem homestead exemption sharply into actions. That's about 20%. Of the potential revenue. And with the how. A constitutional. Rule change will outlaw all being trained. Even -- that you don't see any way to where we get the basics paid for. Product bank is in order to start attacking the problem of getting the basics paid for. We need to start attacking the problem. Of putting. And so much property off the tax rule and not contributing to dissolution of the -- Everybody uses streets everybody uses string everybody. In meet history but -- -- non profit. Or for profit you need to. And to make real serious headway in solving our problems are infrastructure problems. We're going to have to tackle that when no other things -- can do on administrative side that'll help there appear. The major fix that we're going to. Can needn't -- -- on a lot of effort and not a lot of education I think is to get to this. Do we of the time. -- -- -- and always the pleasures from real oh there tell people about the portal where they can take a look at what you've looked. It cannot -- side beat Georgia war on the front page of the web site you'll find. Three big blocks one a which has dollars a head with a Rhodes signed and that's free can go to Jack easily -- reports we've done on this subject. And that they do so much rose Pletcher talked. And our presidents -- you -- bureau of -- in the search. Well Mario come back we'll talk to the leader all of the pixel is streets effort in lake view. You or is like -- you -- an open neighborhoods conferred about the streets as maybe the men talked. Two basic 018782. Passenger wounded so weird tool for -- Measurable and 866. Aided and zero he says it. Well we're. Doing more follow ups and media pink -- Something I think can be you don't bird poorly and we -- on March here. And about. 79 and ten days ago. We had. Members with the league Butte civic improvement association. And I was very impressed by. Good effort there are putting together and what are you they're putting. And gave they had the meeting everything you read says hundreds of citizens. Appeared and we just got started talking to Janet Howard. Who's had a bureau of government search -- been studying this in 2000 they'd have -- -- three major. Publications on this and with all that thought -- talking did you ended in our double -- bureau project board opinion gold -- -- one of the things the bid is an answer it is cutting back on the non profits that are tax exempt and whereas you should non profits be exempt from paying taxes. And 60%. Abuse say yeah absolutely -- -- orders were spies presently Butte civic improvement to a huge board. Chairman of the infrastructure committee -- appreciate -- time victory column about. It's always a pleasure glad to do it to true. Well we -- -- it was a Grand Slam I'll probably what gave people an opportunity to just speak up about their concerns we did it very simple fashion. At the very well organized very well attended by. Citizens and elected officials as well so we you know we feel like we're off to a good start. Was it primarily -- late view. Of representatives. Or was it and a number of neighborhood. It was an absolute cross section of the city hall of including people from the West Bank shall we were very pleased to announce what our objective is there's. This is citywide this is city water objective this is not a lake -- objective. And what what was your objectives at the meet. The objective was is to get the people an opportunity to voice. -- ideas on how we can get this system up and running and how we can make this system be as successful as possible also. That -- the whole premise is to get people's ideas on what we need to do. And then from that we can form different committees and gather information. Determine the magnitude of the problem -- determined the cause of the problem that -- what monies are presently available. How we can reallocate the money how we can maybe get more money from the state and federal government. Maximize. That that maximize our knowledge of what monies are available and then determine what money you were short and come up with a plan of how we can velvet cap. One of things a road in the bread in the news count. You guys were. And intend on determining the conditions of Sydney's streets talking to -- or 2008. They did an extensive. -- search and investigation called street smarts maintaining and managing warming road network. What they found was there there's there's not even. A record to four or. Current indications. Of where the problems are and what they nor did you find the same thing. Well I don't know about citywide. That is not true in the lake view area. The our whole premise and of this structure that would put together this five point plan. Kind of goes back to what we did after the storm was wrong about trying to figure to go way out and we put together a series of committees. And one of those committees went through and actually evaluated all the damage to all the streets. Infrastructure of the drainage sewer and water and we actually had a very detailed. Hundreds and hundreds of pages of damages to street sewer water drainage and on and -- And it was done by a very dedicated group of volunteers. That it went block by block used in the block captain program. In volunteers from being blocked and we did it in an organized fashion. We use survey monkey to gather all the information and we downloaded all of that information to. To the city -- they used a lot of that information -- solicit funds from FEMA for the rebuilding process so we've already done that back in 2006. We I still have all that information of course it's all out -- now so we're gonna have to go back and kind of do the same thing again. But that's all right you know we we need to get our arms random magnitude of the problem and then what we did back analyzes. Is I took that information and we actually can -- it from. The nuts and bolts of what it damages to a dollar and cents price tag it would it would take to fix it. So you know we did that way back when and and we're prepared to do it again because. You can't find a solution to a problem if you don't know the magnitude of the problem. And then prioritize. Those different streets and those. Those areas to determine how you -- or approaching this money was not an issue. What order which you suggested the damage trees throughout -- all of the -- and areas to allocate the funds that are available. -- Georgia Edwards saying the city had not done that sound like lake view whereas. I don't sound like the message to other neighborhoods. If you won't find out what's huge fortune history you have dutrow -- Darling you know as well as I do that's always what it gives them do you know again you have to be willing to participate in the process. And participation that only means gathering the information determinant of magnitude. It may get down to participating in dollars and cents. So if it's gonna get picked it up it's up to us to help get it fixed. All right would come right back Q do -- -- in the neighborhood fighting its three problem. And I'm not really sure which neighborhood -- you keep that it's not fighting through problem. Running your voters where that he plays differently abusive improvement association board. Try and put together sophisticated play and to handled this as citizens. You got. Questions for but he got confidence. One in relation -- call 2601. Sibling over. Exit six -- the junior award celebrity in the word in the current. For -- would -- we have could be yours web site on our web site you can argue that leak. A low -- finger but she reached in particular in the league view and lake Butte civic improvement Hughes -- Undergoing. You don't win effort to dramatic changes in the way you are huge abuse or repaired the wave and low -- ending war. And they're doing and -- to -- league -- a citywide effort Prodi you're older. Heads up its effort for a league view and the number of people talked to loot of Stephen Stephen Euro with -- And he. -- -- been yours is eighteen and seven the war. And I think it was Johnny Jackson that they were having trouble with street potholes to neighborhood. And once Sunday at noon see -- some local. Our people and make a truckload. All that went out and filled the holes. Now aren't -- and the City Council paid for it in one way. What is there are spot on there. Or whatever and I don't know why they can't be done you wouldn't. You need more than one track but at least you would still holes. Temporarily. Fill the seat is yet to. And if you had to do this what a year again you know 45 truckload. -- and a bunch of volunteers out there. Which doubles. All of the -- Anything is better than what we've got it and I actually like the idea get citizens involved with shovels and pick -- to go out and do it needs to be done. But we need to that we need to look long term I mean what we need to try to get a permanent fix what we. Instead of put the band aid on it that's that's what our objective is that for the time being and it's doing whatever we can do to give us some relief from the problem that. Long term I'm hoping that we can get. New streets put in and we can do this throughout the whole New Orleans area. Good to go. Out I was just gonna say. You know we're gonna have this we're gonna have this Orleans area divided up into the different neighborhoods. And and obviously we are going to focus on trying to get everything -- for the whole community. But depending on which -- -- neighborhood association which tolerate will do and and willing to do will determine. The amount of work it actually gets done in those particular areas because. One area can't carry the load for another area we have to we have to kind of concentrate on our area but the overall plan will encompass everybody. But it'll take the help of every neighborhood and every neighborhood association. Our let's talk about deal through -- room where have we get the morning when I talked -- -- Howard would be beat you or functioned correctly. In bear series reports since 2008 bit of the Dubai government nonprofit. And homestead exemptions. -- the pots of money. Our homestead exemption nonprofit. Only makes up 20% of the 80% government and she sounded like government. Wasn't much of a potential. For getting money from. And -- Lola visual poll we do -- be here every day says 60% of people listening at least some people participating. I think nonprofits. Should be exempt promo property taxes where -- -- get the moment. Well -- I think a portion of the money and I think it's going to be probably a small portion of the money is gonna come true. Think that you just touched on. I think it's gonna come -- to reallocate money it's already dedicated in the budgets I think it's gonna come from. Cost saving measures like it listener mentioned earlier I think it's gonna come from going to the state going to the federal government squeeze in them. For whatever we can in order to get some relief. But the bottom line is with the moneys we have in the budget right now we're not even a bookkeeper -- -- -- -- the street you're deteriorating faster than. Then the the 500000. Dollars a year that we have heard district goes to maintain them so we're losing ground every day. If we don't get a big influx of money from somewhere. And get a long term plan put together to repair streets. They're gonna continue to deteriorate so. I think eventually it's gonna take a commitment from the citizens. In order to say we've had enough we're willing to go with a village we're willing to go with some type of self funded program in order make it happen now in order to do that you've got to convince the people. That they can trust the city government he got to convince them that we have turned over every rock and gotten every nickel we -- -- that money should be spent prudently. They're obviously not are not gonna allocate any more money into that convinced that. I mean you have to go out. And prove to them that those monies will be spent in their communities. And it will be monitored and I would hope that he can be monitored by. By a board this established in each community. So that the people can have control themselves over how those monies are spent now that's scratch. And I got that in and that's gonna take. A lot of working with city government or make that happen that's going to be the elephant in the room that you talked about earlier if we're able to do that. -- That it seems that we can't solve the problem unless somebody starts to solve the problem you certainly area. I appreciated call -- bureau alone would like -- follow -- and and continue your efforts and see what happens. But more than glad to let me give you one when he -- -- draster. If the people were arrested there -- and wanna send their name and and get involved in the process. I info at fixed my streets know without comment I end up low and fixed much street Nolan dot com. So if they can do that shortly Butte civic web site but one meant to the infrastructure committee. Give us their division name and contact number we need. We need we need troopers we need people demand for blinded at these committees so. -- older we will speak to you didn't have agreed to banks by. All right back.