Aug 28, 2014|
In 2012 Louisiana launched a $50 billion master plan to slow our coastal land loss and eventually create a sustainable wetlands buffer. Garland was joined by Jerome Zeringue, Executive Director of the Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority.
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Are welcome back -- -- in there tonight. Twelve known. Right now we're thinking about possibly hitting prices. In Syria. Now we're thinking about putting. Advisors all the grown in the Brock. In the thing that I had far more or read about this okay what's the in game in order would try and do and how we're trying to do it. And what to expect to accomplish. So we're going to be talking to trim Middle East experts let the -- Once again for the second time the euro's share up in the New Orleans parish prison. -- reading the report Friday. Israel. Across the board on what the federal government has ordered him to do in the consent decree. As reporters double forever -- would talk to the police chief Bob were you doing this that makes your patrolman sorts. And we all we -- were being forced to by the consent decree. So we're gonna could talk to a cruel and colleges to good to talk to a professor of law. Try to figure out. How is that the police department seems to be tied so close to the consent degree but not the insurance department. They'll sell our. I've got to sleep rooms and as a rating. -- of -- production restoration authority executive director. Unlike me in. Bed complete about what I do in Chicago. Whose column appears in the studio. To talk about what his organs used to. And here it's open up covered virtually. All of my life -- -- 27 years ago. But I struggled to understand where the funding column. And -- of the project or more. And to his benefit he -- meters CD's that are printed out and we're gonna put up with. -- problem issues. If you take a look at these. Are going to be much more concerned than you might -- Tuesday. Drove during welcomed the sure really appreciate. It thank you -- think you have to. But before we get distorted don't cause when you -- on that -- I would like talk about it. Looked at the website. And just -- so I do -- 20072012. How did the master plan and come -- now. And tell people about the every five years you've got to reconstruct. Give not give up. Sure. Will obviously after Katrina. We recognize that we couldn't approach coastal restoration and protection as we have previously those these obvious deficiencies -- issues and challenges that we head. In addition the federal government basically said listen we're gonna come down and provide money to help real rebuild the wall and that needs to be one entity that is going to be responsible and accountable for implementing work with the federal government implement. So the legislature created the coast of protection restoration authority -- essentially responsible for restoration and protection for the state. Restoration which used to resides in the department of natural resources. And protection which was in Department of Transportation and development. They also required that there be a plan. To address this issue this crisis and coast will be there were previous plans previous initiatives local initiatives parish planes coast when he fifteen others. But the religious eggs and that they need to be poignant and also working with the federal government to address this issue so the master plan. What sport of this process and they required that you use the latest in science and technology but also every five years. You have to completely evaluate the assessments assumptions and re essentially re do the plane every five years. In addition every year annually we have to develop an annual plan that we go to the legislature. With the proposed projects for this fiscal year for implementation of -- the master plan. The first master plan was completed in 2007. It was important so much as. It addressed a lot of the conceptual issues things that. Previously had been known in terms of what we need to do to address this issue of coastal land loss and how we can move forward and attack it. 2012 is the first plan and identified specific priorities in projects that also came to the understanding realization that look previously in previous plans. You know identified everywhere from a hundred billion to 200 -- that would be required to rebuild Colston that's probably true but the reality is we'll never see a hundred or 200 billion. So within the 2012 play and we want to ensure that. We both addressed realistic expectations and options. And the two decision drivers in the development establishment the plan which projects built land. And which projects protect communities essentially those of the decision drivers and building in restoring and at the coast. And protecting communities but also projects. That or sustainable into the future I mean it's not rocket science. We've built Whitman's before platforms -- brother projects we have. And have had opportunities to rebuild and it could build coastal wetland but we wanted to build the coast. -- create an opportunity for sustainability that for generations to come. We will have a viable ecosystem and healthy and thriving communities coastal communities as well. We also realize there's not ever going to be enough funding to do this who want to ensure that utilizing the forty plus funding sources we -- up. Focusing on implementing those projects within a realistic dollar sum which is what we settled in and around fifty billion that we believe we can receive within the next fifty years. And prior taught prioritize those projects to get the biggest thing the book to seek achieve that sustainability for a coast. I would submit dude sure is one of the more important show we will do in the future have -- If -- to New Orleans. Or ourselves two weeks ago there were we're losing to Louisiana tune in big chunks. A New Orleans those protective wall but it's not enough. -- absolutely yeah it doesn't have been out protection. But commemorations. Of solid and it's raw -- as in via golf in the oceans. And and our wetlands break and -- who were in big trouble. So. There is a coastal plan master planned. For the city. And leaving them fighters -- the surrounding the executive director -- support of coastal protection and restoration authority. Drove actually in the information you're simply. He got thirteen billion already on the grown to more than seven billion possibly as much as seventeen billion. In the revenue streams over the next seven years. Give me your general idea about that in there and I'd like to go down to funding all the way from corporate to worded to see -- -- Biggio and -- for. Sure. And had left to be able to say that we had the fifty billion in the bank just ready to draw from but the reality is we don't have the full slump but there or. Funding sources we've traditionally and historically used and anticipate using some of those dollars. Continue to use those dollars as we advance the projects and part of the plan is to take advantage and hopefully we can get the federal government and others. To address this issue from a pro active way in and taking some of the investment or investing in the coast to reduce. The ultimate impact that we know we're going to face and living in the coast the reality is just not a question of if it's a question and went. We're going to experience storms are going to continue to experience the effects of subside and since sea level rise. But this is a valuable resource that wants and deserves the protection that just simply because it's the right thing to do. But because of the infrastructure falling gas fisheries resources and and support system and all the important things that this region provides the nation. Warts and deserves that protection and so much is again it was the decisions by the federal government in terms of letting the river. That ultimately it benefits the nation but we are bearing the brunt of primarily those decisions and it's it's more than just the letting themselves. You know subside into Mariah song gets canals all the other things it that -- -- -- you know the problems associated with coastal land loss. But we need to address this issue in this plan is intended to do that and use -- utilizing all the sources of revenue that we had. OK let let's talk movies appeal -- if you mortars start this differently adept on the first one though looked quote. What is and where's the money. With a coastal wetlands planning protection and restoration -- formally refer to as the pro act. It's essentially using from small engines sales revenue. That is applied to implementing projects there's the federal agencies that participate in the state and we are responsible. Four on the operation and maintenance by at the core EPA you know an -- from ringing on cash resources conservation service. And know what the federal agencies and the funding that's allocated to typically anywhere from 8200. Million per year for projects. For you for the -- to a hundred million per year yes. It's also up for reauthorization. Within the next two years which is going to be critical to sustaining that program is that its portfolio -- small engines sales royalties associated with the tax. Revenue related to that okay. Mom you're -- Army Corps of Engineers. Well there are federal projects that -- dredging projects that. They never really have enough money to address all the -- issues and one of the things that we're working. With the corn and -- recently flattens tires just signed an agreement with a quarter beneficial use that material because of the federal standards typically with a -- Once the fact that it's more cost effective to just suspend the material medical cut and show. That's that valuable resource that we need to utilized that is going to be critical for us to both restore the ability to sustain a coast. So there are opportunities that we're looking in in the -- Wordock. Bill that passed in congress provides opportunities hopefully that we can take advantage of to advance that opportunity and part of the dredging in the master plan and two thirds of the restoration budget. The master plan is focused on dredging utilizing that material which is beneficial using it diversions or other methods. To take advantage of that valuable resource. And news that truth her dredging funded or. Is -- money in the -- forward for a June. There's money in the pot for dredging -- again -- port of the overall fifty billion dollar plant of that around 25 billion which is. Associated with the restoration component of the master plan two thirds of that is specific to dredging through two thirds of twenty. -- Aren't and good to talk to me about word. Funding coming from there well unfortunately word is not a funding his instrument it's mostly an authorization. Where provides. The federal government or local entities it's water related projects it's it's the instrument that congress uses. To authorize. These projects flood protection and other associate project. There is within this Wordock opportunities both for flip protection that's being addressed everything and of them walking into the gulf which is critical for the terrible. Food region but also within that there are other opportunities crediting which is important to it's that when -- invest in the projects or do them. That we can utilize. The money that we're investing for credit to extend. Or. Provide opportunities to expand. Projects or go back to receive credit so that we can do more projects within the wer revealed so immunity to implement them blue in there. With the word we have opportunities. That do. Or they authorized project -- -- for example the walking into to the gulf project was authorized that the flood protection project. For the truth -- without -- funded it's not funded. Unfortunately was authorized but the only funding. For that project primarily has come from the state and the locals the locals terrible past two. Separate state sales tax to fund that component so it's been primarily. State and local funding and the federal money has mostly been in just some of the design up to this point but they haven't invested in construction Dallas which is -- more real no funding and -- -- pork. Right no funding primarily authorizations to move product exports -- -- coastal impact assistance program. That was essentially related to. Providing funding federal government provided funding that -- two opportunities that they used related to implement projects working providing money to the state. To and the local parishes for implementing projects. Associated with impacts with two oil and gas soared and you know. From the influences the -- -- trying to mitigate for some of those impacts to implement projects of the state. Has about 460. Million. In terms of CF dollars has also local -- that we had been investing in those dollars will come to an end we've exhausted. Those funds primarily because we implement projects. Sort of 460. Million -- -- Stayed cure polish funding misery in the such thing -- -- the -- to surplus to the extent that we were provided dollars. And now we are utilizing those state dollars for implementation of projects on the previous administration. Governor Blanco. Has provided. 300 million in coverage in those first you term. Provided 300 million in the second another 200 me that we have been putting. 1800 billion yes and is that one time right it was surplus dollars. Is that Dylan's life Willits in the pipe and so much as we are utilizing those dollars for implementation of projects since 2008 we've constructed over two billion. In restoration projects and there have been over eleven billion. In protection measures don't primarily a lot of that was the new wall -- and vicinity system. But outside of that we've constructed to work with locals in constructing two billion in -- protection measures. Aren't CD BG community development block grants. Typically those funds come after and then again that's speaks to the point I was making in terms of getting proactive in addressing these issues. Those funds used to come from the federal government to address the impacts associated with storms tried to make communities -- restore. -- mitigate some of the impact that that with the experience during the storm that's a possibility but not in the bank will be utilized some of those dollars working with coastal communities to implement some project about them. That through CD BG I know that the CPR -- had fifty million. That we've invested but the governor's office of Homeland Security. And emergency preparedness directly receive those dollars and they do things with communities as well not necessarily in our purview but. You know evacuation centers and. Inflicted a few 1000001 to write. Where bill lived there since 1970s. So I think I know how the majority of you out there and -- You've been told for decades and decades and accused of were losing so the reason. And if we don't do something about where I got a real live here including. Mulch of New Orleans or at least towards sections of New Orleans. I understand you make can grow huge trend of bigger of a concern the kids to college in the mortgage. This is kind of -- esoteric problem that you hear about what you don't exceed. And there there -- people working behind the scenes but hopefully the maturity it stiff as a board we can just. Casually think about it and not worry. -- during one of these executive director of book. Coastal protection -- relation to argue organization with the mission statement of privacy. Laws. And our lifestyle. -- if those that that missed the first fellow with the panel scuba conclusion to podcast. -- where we're going young lives that you sent me. Where when we -- a couple of things that we're about active. Because I've committed to mystic. In and talking to experts on this issue. When this that did that building and good 300. Ultimate. Will never get. Which -- point out here. We do not -- total funding -- -- with a master plan and we're seeking funding for each project as it comes. And gives a little bit more hope because hopefully. You'll have success. To show. What they get more money and. Exactly we'll have success and demonstrate that we're doing -- diligence and and putting money where it needs to be but also as we build on these projects in the intent is is that they're going to. Bill Dolan the successes that we've achieved learn what we know we're not going to be perfect we're going to make some mistakes but minimizes this weekend those mistakes. And implement projects that are going to continue to build and enhance and allow opportunities in the future to both build on the that the first tier of projects it. Essentially to tears to twenty year. Initial projects and second here's what we hope to achieve within -- The next thirty years but there are intended to build on those and achieve the level of success and in both of reestablishing and maintaining that ability to. Get to the point where for the first time since the 1930s who can actually say where we're building that football field every thirty minutes to an hour right now we're continuing. In the -- lost 19100 square miles since the 1930s. But within the implementation of the plane which we -- with which we've essentially started. In 2012. Within the first thirty years getting to that point were were tipping the scale were rebuilding more than we're losing. Our -- talked to me about her own to -- -- thought those were funds during the -- bills that were. Used essentially to create a barrier to try to prevent the oil. And then once the well was capped the project was being converted to utilizing those funds to. Establish and rebuild the barrier islands which are critical. And only two that first line of defense. But in looking at both the response -- all still recognizing that if you going to have to deal with that issue ever -- -- in the future it's much better to have. At least. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Of the 380. Wolves that was what it's already expended but the national fish and wildlife foundation funding that came from the trans ocean sediment that first -- money that we are using which is specifically. Allocated for the purposes. Of barrier Rollins in diversion to the department of just justice determined that it wasn't us we had no part of that but specifically. Allocated for the purposes of -- Rollins and -- diversions. And there was 2.4 billion of which 50% is coming to Louisiana it's gonna be managed to the next official -- foundation but one point two big and so we've got. What we're gonna provide on the plains and projects that failed don't federalism. Willits from that Transocean settlements from the oil spill money that's being put into. Project that we don't really know what it is because it's up to the judge to determine. How much supplies in new per barrel and well on that as which I was a settlement that they just kind of settled and said okay you know this is what. We're gonna settle law and indicate far removed him for a confusing so more loose -- back to bury Poland. 380. Million U views so for borrowers in the back you Cho used constructed in -- and through while life been pitchers who's going to be 2.4 billion. The ministry official while -- foundation dished there was 2.4 billion in net settlement of which 50% comes to Louisiana one point two billion. And we ordered PNC projects. Barrier around like the common not a project that we're working on right now over a hundred million. To reestablish that each hit on common not which is that critical area between food showing grand dial. It was experiencing a loss about forty feet per year on that that island. And that's critical both to restore protect that that inland wetlands but also critical to helping maintain and protect crucial which is critical to the longest. All right you've you've heard the reports many a time we're. Couple of experts Los -- so we should stop saying that because it's. It's an overall football field and Al world artwork and over those. It's an overall -- people envisioned big chunks of football fuels. Falling off. My responses. Fear of that it's cumulative. It's still everyday -- -- -- part liberal block property. Over the Bronx and restoring this the men have been given the job of trying to say that it's it's it's that simple trying to keep coastline and prone to spirit. Rome talks with what will what do you think people should know war what he won't point out. What the important thing cool and it's the fact that there is hope and there is cause for optimism. The important thing is we of course don't have all the money. To do the whole plant but we do have a plane. And we do have a plan that's going to take advantage. Of both the successes and addressing the issue of coastal land loss so that we can create. That sustainable ecosystem where the coastal communities where you know the Lafayette to the world -- -- that terrible you know -- the show Vance and all these other coastal communities. Can continue to survive and thrive and the plan is not perfect but it's one of the plans I think that provides. A way to address this issue but also in the most -- political process in terms of letting the science and technology determined. How we move forward which projects we invest in and what are the critical projects that we need to move while no one in or going to. Minimize. The devastating effects of of coastal -- -- and we've -- it's a dynamic coast it's gonna take it dynamic approach. To address this should never be able to fix it forget it you know when civil bullets -- -- the whole issue. It's just part of it and inherent in living in the coast it's going to take this that they actively manage you know build on the successes and learn from mistakes. And trying to address this issue we believe the plan is in place that we can do that and we. We're evaluating it every five years this process where people can engaging in. Both on an annual basis but also in the master plan process the stakeholders we have focus groups that we. Fisheries. You know community groups and others the that they -- part of the process and decision process so. Again -- perfect but it is a plane and we hope to remove demonstrate that by implementing this plan will create that sustainability. -- The -- scientists say about that is because. Momo learning curve in the -- started -- -- -- sure would get ugly you know the one of the surprises for me you want. You know like -- -- wants but I thought to -- for MPs in the British. They believe the rage on the -- in the -- there in the -- we call on him he said no they release from the -- with the age commitment to edge to where. Very small band dove for a active water the -- and the coach. And when that goes there too salty -- too fresh. -- -- Expects what we're use to could do in the national's second goal way. To design cues you'd talk Tuesday. Yeah we may be able to maintain that should worry while you're doing all of us. Well there's no doubt that the fisheries resources that we do have are dependent upon this habitat this ecosystem coastal Louisiana. We have 40% of the nation's wetlands but unfortunately we are experiencing 80% of the coast. And all of the -- economically viable fish three species. Or dependent upon those estuaries. That people typically referred to think about when you think about seafood depend on the assessed two -- and there's no doubt that may or. And I depending upon certain so -- that are required to spawn but they also require the touch to bring him into that nurturing habitat that provides. You know those. Those opportunities for those smaller organisms to grow and be protected to where they can get to the commercially harvester both sides but. It's it's important and critical that we sustain that but it's going to be sustained both. Re connecting in utilizing the river is that the one tool that created this whole system if you think there -- millions of years ago. The Gulf of Mexico was all the way at Cape Girardeau, Missouri it was the Mississippi River that created that delta. And critical to the success of this plan. As both utilizing that opportunity with the river at the chapel I river connecting in utilizing that valuable resource of sediment. Is going to be important. To both of rebuilding and sustaining a coasting and maintaining that healthy ecosystem in and -- to areas where you know freshwater insult -- meet. And it's critical that we have that connection to the river to achieve success within the plant. Executive directors from the colts' -- coastal protection -- -- authority board that won't means as. Trying to keep those living where we are and -- these -- excel from you have to move it's virtually. That's simple for the majority view loosening today. Drone. You -- sent me. A slide trio. And I thought I knew virtually everything about this so when the scariest -- to oversee. Are you in your computer people eliminate everything booked solid land. It's called solve these shall we premature and solidly and -- And it says this is a solidly and -- local -- and everything. Else is the wetlands proper. And I mean you'll -- little pink dot in the middle. There have been virtually no solid land a little bit to imply -- -- But that's. Here or there isn't any place people can go and see dislodged or seen the news. Elements. Or were were will post that are on the website of actual or look we don't worry we're gonna try to post -- on -- but somebody looks at the that's when I think a lot of people go. Really we can say this because like you said you lived in the blue veteran. You don't even move on solid. It did shuttle will scarier than that used to have confidence when you -- this. I do because again this is primarily taking the weapons themselves out in the weapons or important in many respects and talked about the whole. Ecosystem refused aspect but also from the storm continuation reducing storm -- and those benefits but. It it. The intent here -- to show. If we don't do anything ultimately we're gonna lose that valuable resource and it's going to be exposed in its -- and that's -- guarantee your right people think. This may happen. It will it will it is happening right now and that's why these projects are intended to both -- sustain what we have to try to rebuild this which is we can't. And we're out of time of one who has been -- good would unlock chosen as. 84%. Of the puns go dredging. It within restoration act right. And a lot of misinformation. Saying you know we should be dredging them an odd but. At least from what -- tell me it's the biggest part of the budget it is and continue to do that well. -- thank you so much we will continue to do these shows as often as you have the time. And thank you fortune doing thank -- -- -- militia thank you -- appreciate what you do governor of the.